Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad. He's working with chemicals. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. For when the subjects didn't want to continue? And also a scientist. But I needed to kill her because of that. He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. When I picked them up, I was going to kill them." Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. Now, we're seeing about a 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year and that tonnages then moves into our food source. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. Meanwhile later that night, the other side of town. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". You mean they're looking at 20 million people hungry? And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. You wouldn't though. An mlsconsumeraccess.org number 3030. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" Yeah. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies; many of them after they were murdered. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. That's what you do. They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad, but in the end, was, uh, redeemed a bit. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university. Haber's gas troops, uh, un- unscrewed, they opened the valves on almost 6000 tanks containing a 150 tons of chlorine. A hero. They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. Jul 28, 2018 Gary is dancing around this topic, Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. And he goes home for a few days. Radiolab is supported by Casper. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. Each answer just begs another why. And so in 1918, Fritz Haber gets the Nobel Prize. Okay. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. But I mean, he's up to 195 volts. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. "Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" And he is basically homeless at this point. In 2016, Abumrad took a four-month break from Radiolab, in large part to recharge from what he's described as burnout from the years of making the show in his distinctly intense and very. Accuracy and availability may vary. It was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. Who is going to do this powerful piece of science. Sounds insane. So you're saying they were shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? He knew about it. plus-circle Add Review. Well what's the noble cause in this case? But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. Yeah. And there behind the German lines is-. Takes away his wife, his children, all his material possessions. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. "Just wanted to kill them, I just needed to kill them." And it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences, and to approach it with kind of crazy joy? So, here's the interesting thing. He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. So if you have kids in the room, maybe this is a time to tell them to go brush their teeth or something. He would deny things. Now, of course, you could find some nitrogen out in the world. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Two more minutes. Uh, walked in and asked his wife, uh, where this friend of mine was. This is Radiolab and today we're going to get bad. One of the reasons it grows is because it's sucking up all the nitrogen in the soil. So there's a way in which there's a touch of spark of humanity. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. ", Yes I did need to kill. Chimps. Been through this a lot of times before, and she's already told you she's in a hurry. After all he knows what he can stand. When you call someone, "Evil." Yeah. Here's what he did. Terms and conditions apply. This is what totally pulled me into the story. We need to put it under a lot of pressure. That's correct. He was in this, um, uh, uh, state of fury, he said, and, um, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" The Bad Show Listen Transcript Image credits: Adam Cole Cruelty, violence, badness. I'm not saying a word. He eventually goes to England-. Who are you?". Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. And-. When you press one of these switches all the way down, the learner gets a shock. Thousands of people have done it before you. It's called Too Much Information. Yeah, me too. That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film. He won't answer me or nothing. We lived together for a couple months, he was very aggressive, he started calling me a whore, and told me he didn't love me anymore, so I broke up with him. And in the trial, when the prosecutors essentially ask him, "How you came to commit genocide?" And a mysterious past. In 1962, Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. That allows an individual to act inhumanely-, It's like a downloadable from the internet; instant defense for doing wrong. Which is a fairly small-ish sort of town, and so does Clara. Yeah. He actually was very humiliated that Germany had lost, and especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. Bred from the air was the phrase. Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. Hi I'm Robert Krulwich. Takes command of them partially. So, he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning and he leaves Germany, telling a friend he felt like he lost his homeland. Let's go into our instructions. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. We just need a whole lot more of one simple element. Now that's important. Like, is that something that's universal? We were just enacting an old very famous experiment you may have heard about. Like you just did, which happens constantly. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Year 2003. This next part's a little graphic. Science. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. And I- I killed her. When I said, "Goodbye." Unusually so in those times. And my dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Um, we lived together for a couple months. They're not doing something because they have to. And then, the final one. And on June 13, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell, and brought to a sort of very nondescript, concrete, ugly office building. He's standing there on the front, pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings, admittedly, it's a ware, but still. So you don't know? All rights reserved. Something's happening to that man in there. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. I've just got the, uh, the data from the Milgram. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. About; Blog; Projects; Help; Donate An illustration of a heart shape . Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Be right back. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning, meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and give us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. "It's okay to admit this, you need to admit this.". Don't- don't the man's health mean anything? Listen to free wherever you go to podcast and sign up at openearsproject.org. Despite the chlorine gas, he didn't intend for that to happen. If it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-, All right, let's go on to our instructions. They're engaged with the test, they're trying to be good participants. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. No. Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. And what is basically like the Baghdad of his time. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. The prods. When you call someone then you're kind of done with them. Hey wait! We want what Elizabethans got at the scaffold, which was a confession. Come over now.". He's part of the club and he really, really relished it. Obviously no need to be alarmed. Yeah, well. Like, you know, "Who are you?". Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. Yes, I did mean to kill. Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called-. All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? And invited me over. I'll give you bad. He is- he wants to feed- he wants to feed Germany. Alex Haslam, professor of psychology at the University of Exeter. Oh, that right there, slap some quotations around that. And so, we've decided that it's time to go back to something we did once upon a time when we were wondering about good and bad. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. And so, I ex- expanded the sample where we asked about 5000 people. He's such a puzzle to me. Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. I needed to kill her because that-. Fast forward 10 years. It's a good one. Is that- is that nitrogen is trivalent. We don't exactly know why. It is a fair question to ask, "What are the conditions under which you, or me, or any of us could do-. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. And every scenario produced a different result. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. And Satan's like, "Well, I- I bet I can change his mind." We, as- as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of god-like, uh, sort of vision of, like, well of course what they're doing is wrong. Y-P-R-E-S. Actually, the Americans called it Yeeps. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. This is just a tsunami of evil-, And at the very end of the play, when everyone finds out what Iago's done, Othello asks him, "Why? 1933 comes. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. Also from Breslau. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. Do we know? An experiment is being conducted in the elegant interaction laboratory at Yale University. We'll be right back to Haber, but wait- wait. And this is was the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and, of course, Hitler's Germany. To find page after page of yeses. Well I can use that same process-. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. We were just enacting an old, very famous experiment that you may have heard about. And one evening, they were throwing a party and invited me over. Pat, go ahead. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. The whole thing happened serveral years ago. You're not the first one. That's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. Right? That's radio producer Ben Walker, he'll be our guide for this segment. Yes, it's awesome. After all, he knows what he can stand. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. Uh, Haber it's unknown what happened for the rest of that evening, but it is a well-documented fact that the very next morning. They couldn't deploy it. "Demand me nothing, what you know-, From this time forth, I never will speak word." ", Meanwhile, later that night on the other side of town-. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. These violent delights tienen fin violento. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together, and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. So, these are some word pairs. They spent the next six months interrogating him. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed. You- I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them and to someone else because they want to promote science. Yeah. Why did you take these women off the streets and wanted to destroy them? Wow. It's absolutely essential. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. Although, I don't know if that's the right word for this next thing 'cause it's sort of more complicated. I mean, yes, I did lie about that. Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". Was it nice day, nice sky, nice job, or nice chair? But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. "Willing to help and a worthwhile experiment.". Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. And he said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is Of course, you don't want to do this. And he spends five years and a futile effort-, Sounds insane. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them, and to someone else, because they want to promote science; well, you can see that's a good thing. Probably have, but in case you haven't. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. We're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. To find page after page of yeses. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. He would deny things, he would obscure, he would dance around things. He would dance around things. And Haber has an idea. Push button, get mortgage. And he believed it. Yeah let's . And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. They were gagging, they were choking; hundreds of them were falling to the ground like-. Well talk about Fritz Haber. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. Well, there's something distasteful about the fact that he was too into it, but I do think on some level you have to divorce the man from his deeds. As we continue listening to the Bad Show on human nature in our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Wave, which we mirrors the natural shape of your body, or the Casper mattress with zone support for your hips and shoulders for better alignment. Terms and conditions apply. Mm-hmm (affirmative), Mm-hmm (affirmative). So to speak. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters. How many times would they shock that sad-. In Shakespeare, or life. Up until that point, Gary refused to say, "That from the minute I picked these women up, I wanted to kill them." This is Jeff Jensen, and he's a reporter in LA. And I used to socialize with him and his wife. It's the experimenter. But in a us sort of way. All right. It gets bogged down. Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. Uh, if I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. This next part's a little graphic. Just a little glimmer. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. But this is why this is such an interesting guy, around the same time, officials in the U.S. government are calling him a war criminal. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. Nice job? This is, uh, I just want to take a shower. So, around the turn of the century for German scientists like Haber, this was the challenge. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. Of course, nobody wants to be killing other people; we realize this is hard work. That is captured the nitrogen right out of the air. He knew about it. Hey this is Jad, RadioLab is supported by IBM. And, you know, it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences. These are people who are incredibly noble, they are. Continuing using the last switch on the board please. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. Why did you take these women off the streets and want to destroy them? He had snapped. It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. Radiolab is supported by Audible. "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". Especially when it came to one particular fact. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then separate your head; which is put on a post. He could do anything. Yeah, I don't think we quite [crosstalk 00:49:32]. And my father wasn't buying it. Gary is dancing around this topic. Radiolab.org. All rights reserved. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan Foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. He had women participants. They're doing it because they think they ought to. Outside of WNYC, I think This American Life does as well, and I know enthusiastic fans transcribed Serial.. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal, which hasn't. Um, this is one of the things that's, uh, this was one of the things that's sparked my interest in the topic of murder. Shoots herself in the chest. And 84% of the women. Haber's gas troops, unscrew, they open the valves on almost 6,000 tanks, containing 150 tons of chlorine. With my arm. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. Finally, acknowledging, yeah, that's true. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. You've touched me. And not just 'cause he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. No 'cause if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s you could always go to a public hanging. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. And shortly after his return, Clara, allegedly, confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. 2K views almost 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. Well, actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. She had something else on her mind. What you know-". He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Especially when it came to one particular fact. He'll be our guide for the segment. And that's what Shakespeare did in all his plays. He- he loves the fatherland and he loves Germany. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". He would have each subject sit down at a table. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife. You could say people were bat (beep) crazy. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. 10s, 10, 15, 20 times. [inaudible 00:49:36] bad people in Shakespeare. Let me just get that out. Prosecution, [crosstalk 00:12:03] the Attorney General. We'll basically bring it to the front, and when the wind is right, we'll just spray it. That's where they're heading towards. Iago. And it's moving in about one meter per second. And did you go back to the party then and continue dinner partying for a while? I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good to be honest. People like director Sam Mendez, musicians Jean Batiste, and Wynton Marsalis, Call Your Girlfriends [inaudible 00:27:12], and our very own Alec Baldwin. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. But if they were prepared to do that, and I suspect a lot of them would, um, then we'd say these are people who really believe in science. And, "Well why the rage?" But the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess. And when hydrogen and nitrogen bond together, the thing you get-. in what is basically like the Baghdad of his time (laughing). Just to put that into context and to bring a few other of our storytellers in. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. So these are some word pairs. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. Humans. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. At high temperature. You mean they're looking at 20 million people going hungry? The fourth product is-. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. And I just sat at my desk and started reading these. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. Read these words. And I designed a little, um, questionnaire where I simply ask the students, you know, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" That's it? And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. Because if they're going to record it, I mean I'm going to record it here to but [inaudible 00:27:30]. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a few audiobook. ", "Even- even when their sorrows almost were forgot. Up until that point, Gary refused to say that "From the minute I picked these women up I wanted to kill them." The general's name is Othello. "I just needed to kill because of that." So, you know, around this point, I just don't want to have anything to do with this guy. With help from Shima Oliaee, Carter Hodge, and Lisa Yeger. Uh, he's a master plotter. He loves the fatherland, and he loves Germany. Bald on top. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. Very distinctive looking man. And you tell us, "Actually, you know under some circumstances, we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because, here's another flip, we don't have to be told. I mean you have to remember, during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. God. "This was exactly what was in my mind. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". And he throws himself in one of the central issues facing Germany that at that time. Now that's important, it's very important. 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