I imagine a lot of that came from being aligned with the Lord in his desire to bless his people. That was helpful to me! Youve given me a lot to think about. He loves his followers and holds them up high. Welcome to The Berean Test and thank you for your comments! Jon I agree that scripture should be read in context but I disagree that in this instance a blessing has been taken out of context. KJ21. The Lord turn His 11 And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand? I love the repetition when I am struggling under a circumstance, I appreciate that repetitiveness because it helps me to remember scripture and the things that God wants me to remember, and i can sing it over myself and my situation. I dont know how we Americans can look at our current culture and compare it to Israel in Numbers. Thank you also for what you wrote in the comments about the church being new Israel, with all the scripture references. school, Sunday | 22 views, 2 likes, 0 loves, 0 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Tucker Presbyterian Church: Sunday School Hour February 5, 2023 When God grants you favor, He shows you His immense kindness beyond what you deserve, hope, or imagine. Vince have you considered the alternate lyrics in this version? 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his names sake. Repeating it. Worship ( talking to God the word you is commonly used) 3. However, I do agree with your first point. Maybe a blessing to sing over others, like a benediction post service, but is it really me worshiping God? May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children and their . We connect with her in a way we don't connect with everyone. (Desiring God, 81-82). One for every day of the week except weekends. He is with us wherever we go (Joshua 1:9). Psalm 118:25 Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. Sad that there are websites, blogs, and YouTube channels devoted to being critical of others for their expression of worship. This song being mostly scripture, repetition is good. May His favor be upon you That you would open the right doors for our lives and for our loved ones, that you would close the wrong doors and protect us from those we need to walk away from. He is with you. That we would become more sensitive to Gods presence that exists everywhere, including the Holy Spirit indwelling within us. Their hearts are far from God (Isaiah 29:13, Ezekiel 33:31, and Matthew 15:79). As for repetition, Messiah, by Handel, is one of the most repetitious songs in history. Yes, but its one thing to pray for the blessing of another; its another thing to declare they are blessed by God (like Eph 1:3 in Christ.), First time reader here! Do I believe that God forgets? We had a patient who had a cross addiction of TRANCE MUSIC which relies on repetition. Vers 22 Where are all the Godly men of God, Preaching truth, sin, Heaven & Hell ? Listen: I love this site. May His presence go before you. by Andr van Belkum. Second, in my review, I worded However, they will also be lead astray, thinking that God is with, within, and for them without repentance or faith. poorly. If this is the case, then every pastor who uses the Aaronic blessing at the end of a worship service should cease to do so. Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright 1996, 2004, 2015 by Tyndale House Foundation. Help me to see the way forward and light my path before me with your favor. It was originally a blessing God instructed Moses to tell Aaron to give to the people of Israel in Numbers 6:24-26. [ section 2 Chorus ] which you are 100% correct about & under criteria 2 Bridge section 2, you add as proof text Jeremiah 23:23-24 Interesting though, the point I wish to make is exactly within the verses prior to vers 23 which expands on the commen Church Blessing & one could ask if it is in fact Biblical in all circumstances, or should one not be more careful in how we phrase it in general? Christians should saturate their minds with such first and foremost, BEFORE they concern themselves with another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song, another Christian band or song you get the picture I hope. Again if I would of been there I would of cried with you . Thank you for your comments! I am trying to do a recording of the several different versions, particularly in the different languages. I went and read Deuteronomy chapter 7, and took away these key points, which I think helps to make Jons case: God is for lost people, he is so for them that he sent his only son so that they might believe and have eternal life. I hesitated to read your review because I did not what any one to take away from me my appreciation of this worship song. We dont sacrifice sheep. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children, and their children [Bridge 2] May His presence go before you And behind. While I enjoy thos song, it is an example of where the church is. Ive been asked by several folks from our church, When are we singing The Blessing?, and I have told them that I was thinking about it. [May] the Lord bless you and keep you, Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you May His presence go before you, And behind you, and beside you In your weeping and your rejoicing, He is with you May His favor be upon [our nation], for a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children. Can you tell what thats a reference to? Sang for my city and our country, especially for those who have yet to know the Lord and experience the blessing of life with Him. Repetitions create Emotions. Jeremiah 23:16 22 It seems that the masses like it! Again, So sorry for your lost but we have the hope of re-uniting with our loved ones that have gone before! And be gracious to you. Good to see your review and thank you for those biblical references. As you might recall in Romans 13, governments are established by God and we are subject to our governing authorities. And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us, upon us; yea, the work of our hands establish, Agreeableness, delight, suitableness, splendor, grace, Noun - masculine plural construct | first person common plural, gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive imperfect Jussive - third person masculine singular, Verb - Piel - Imperative - masculine singular | third person feminine singular, Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine singular construct, An action, a transaction, activity, a product, property, Verb - Piel - Imperative - masculine singular | third person masculine singular. However, they could also be lead astray, thinking that God is with, within, and for them without repentance or faith. Out of context is intentional. Personally, my biggest issue with this song is that they turned a 2 minute song into a 12 minute song, and I feel like Im getting tired of getting blessed by the time its over..(kind of like this comment, lol). We need this in this time that the world is constantly telling us that the collective is important but not individuals. Can you explain how an overall 9.5/10 rating is condemning a song entirely derived from Gods own book? it gave me a swift kick in the pants that forced me to re-examine my position on repetition and its relation to Berean Test reviews. Im not sure how any of us can get away with quoting from copyrighted Bible translations. In the same way, God shows favor to the ones who delight in . 6 Remember, O LORD, thy tender mercies and thy lovingkindnesses; for they have been ever of old. We are each responsible to God for ourselves, not others. As the Church, we of course desire the Lord to bless us and for His Face to shine upon us. We are never beyond his rescue. If we take Paul too literally, beyond what he intended, wed be singing for the destruction of all those who persecute Christians. On that note, I think Dave Brennan makes a valid point on the added repeated phrase and I might suggest unqualified words He is with you. I will paste a portion of the article below and wait for your comments. And I find it very much a good help to encourage quieting my mind and focusing on Jesus. This criteria is mainly based on the aforementioned criterias in rounding things off. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. And a thousand generations. SDA Hymnal. These nations are to be devoted to complete destruction, in order to prevent intermarriage, and idolatry. Thank you for using your hobby to bless others a congratulations on breaking through! Meditation, at least applied to scripture, is a repetition of thought and focus on a particular portion. For instance, Psalm 67:1-2 says: "May God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face to shine upon us, that your way may be known upon earth, your saving power among all nations.". I am glad that you checked my criterion before reading my review. If you have any questions, please review our Privacy Policy or email us at privacy@biblegateway.com. He is for you unaccompanied by anything else suggests that God is pleased with unrepentant sinners as they are, who neither know, love, nor follow him there is no hint in this song that people need to turn to this God and change their ways, in order to experience his full blessing. It does seem to be inspired by God, based on the worldwide response. But in many ways, we are blessed, for a purpose of being a blessing. Quite a lot of discussion here to wade through on the repetition you may want to have a separate forum on that. Usually, I delete these sorts of posts; However, I allowed it because the majority of what you had to say is directed towards the song in question or another persons comments. Lets first get there, before we claim the spoils Similar in the way this song claiming every Blessing under the sun, without much in the way of pre-requisites! While I cannot relate to your loss, may you be encouraged to consider that the Spirit of God working within you will bring, and likely has brought, Gods blessing and truth into the lives of those you have come in contact. I had not hear The Blessing until a week ago while attending a conference (with social distancing.) This past week was the first anniversary of the death of our daughter, a worship leader in her own right. Youve probably heard of YouTube, Pandora, and Spotify. (Principles remain love your neighbors, dont be a pagan, theres only one God.). Many psalms include blessings, statements about enemies, requests for destruction of said enemies, as well as the oft extrapolated adoration and supplication. Furthermore, amongst the San Bushmen ( a local hunter gatherer people), the evening before a hunt (with bow and arrow), they dance around a fire, with a set step and rhythm, singing a repetitive song till they fall over in a trance-like state, where they see things in the spiritual realm. I appreciate your insights and that you found scriptural basis for the lyrics. it might sound like just as a sentence He will simply think whoever this Lord is being sung about, seems good. Satan is always 90% right and 10% wrong think about the deception of Eve in the garden. I like your helpful analysis, particularly your explanation of how The Blessing links to scripture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ZjB0UOzOg&list=WL&index=9&t=0s. And their children, and their children. It was specifically meant for his church, I believe. So, how does God love His enemies? Prayer For God's Favor Dear Jesus Christ, As I come to you in prayer, I ask that you might look upon me with favor. In hindsight, I boxed myself into the standard format, where a blessing is offered at the end of the service. 24 'May the Lord bless you and protect you. All around you, and within you. I enjoy this song but as a worship leader I have a responsibility to use songs in church services that give praise and worship to God. I pray for my generation and those generations to come to be safe, happy and healthy; to accept Christ as their Savior and for the salvation of their spouses-to-be whomever they shall be. God blessed numerous people who were not believers. I have no children, no grandchildren. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. It is our job to proclaim Gods word and it is the Holy Spirits job to give understanding, faith, and discernment to those who God calls. But how readily we all stand first in line with thinking we are the special one God favours in doling out Blessed measures of such a great Spirit Of Discernment. May the peoples praise you, God; may all the peoples praise you. In your coming, and your going. Sad that we are grading music written to worship our creator and Lord based on our personal preference. May His Favor Be Upon You Hanging Framed Canvas Print, Wood Framed Canvas Decor, The Blessing Wall Art, Abstract Canvas Sign MadeToShineDesign (187) $29.50 FREE shipping More colors The Blessing Song Kari Jobe | May His Favor Be Upon You | Scripture Song Sign | Christian Song Sign | Scripture Signs | Mothers Day Gift rootedngroundedhome (18,174) Ive been fascinated by this song since the first time I heard it. Therefore it could not be anything else but a song about mans speciality or entitlement to Blessings i.e self adolatery & false euphoric emotional abuse,coupled with easily equally applicable to any false god worship. Intense feelings about the words are great, but theres a danger of overdoing it. Jon I had the similar thoughts as you; that this is very much like taking Jer 29:11, and thinking that it is meant for us individually. And your family and your children And their children and their children. As to the repetition, sometimes you need 3,4,5 times before your heart opens enough to get it. Bible Scriptures. It was freely given to you as a gift from God so why now do you claim it as yours with a copyright! Good review! Thanks again for you reply and you are right this issue/subject transcends this songs, our Bible is not copyrighted however the translations are and the very songs we sing together on Sunday morning are copyrighted as well- Im also well aware you already know this from reading your reply. Praise ( songs about or to God most of the time the word you is withheld in these songs) 2. Theres no reason to think that the artist says that the LORD does it, then shifts to man shining Gods face to you, then again to God. Again, I guess this applies only to those in Christ who has fulfilled the requirements of the law on their behalf and thus brought Gods blessing to them. On the other hand, emotion without truth produces empty frenzy and cultivates shallow people who refuse the discipline of rigorous thought. Raised in the faith, King David knew God brought mighty action when He remembered someone or something. Regarding specifically the question of this song being used in corporate worship is the command to worship God through psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs exclusively meant for adoration? Psalm 67:1 To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song. You can tell that Kari Jobe is just blown away with how well the song is being received. I often am forced to watch the same commercial 4x in a row on internet TV But, a lot of people (including myself) have concerns about how songs might lead unbelievers in the wrong direction. Ministry ( these songs are focused on building us up songs that use the pronoun I usually fall here and songs that dont fall into the other three categories). Your perception and replies are so mature and absolutely Christlike. The major problem I see is that most people emphasize the emotional aspect of worship. Within the context of the whole Word of God we know what it means to follow God and to dwell in His house but if we stick to Psalm 23 only and alone, these concepts are not explained. Mantras and meditations become means of healing and recovery what is better to hear on repeat, that you are a worthless, hopeless piece of garbage, or that in all things God is for you, with you, and within you? Of course, this might be best done when in private worship, but it could be done corporately as well. I became profitable this year, covering all the costs I put into it since 2018. The Bible speaks extensively on finances and financial breakthroughs, teaching us foundational principles to ensure financial breakthroughs in our lives. TheLordturn His You get the idea , I hope. LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel, Noun - common plural construct | third person masculine singular, Verb - Hifil - Imperfect Jussive - third person masculine singular, Preposition | second person masculine singular, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive imperfect - third person masculine singular | second person masculine singular, To bend, stoop in kindness to an inferior, to favor, bestow, to implore, The law of the Nazarite in the days of his separation, OT Law: Numbers 6:25 Yahweh make his face to shine (Nu Num. The chastisement might be painful but only "for a moment" but God's "favor is for a lifetime" and into eternal life. I agree with you, except for the well intended part. I do appreciate the work put in to note all those Scripture passages! Yes, we are able to listen to the song for free like you stated however the real catch is tossing down $50 bucks for the real anointing they are offering where everything looks so so perfect because that has to be God. Thank you for your comment and compliments. Those last few verses referred to God being jealous. Psalm 67:1 But if you keep this song in context, it isnt for the church it was for Aaron and the priests (Numbers 6) as a blessing for Israel. However, the bigger issue is, will an unbeliever interpret Psalm 23 as applicable to them? Luke praised them for their doctrinal integrity, not for being sensitive to the feelings of unbelievers. There will be a time of judgment in the future, but, until then, God graciously gives good things, even to those who hate Him. Fails. So . Know therefore that the Lord thy God, He is God, the faithful God, who keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His commandments to a thousand generations, ASV. The words declare a blessing from our heavenly Father. Bryan, Don, Randall . May it continue to grow and provide you with God pleasing conversation and connections as well as a good reason to keep on searching scripture. 7, read it all, in context). Im not a fan of Elevations theology- in fact I think some of it is not biblical. In closing; The song is not all just bad, just mostly & a true discerning Christian within Christian context, can find assurance & some solace there-in, as any other false religion would be able to. But Pauls actual instruction is to be speaking to on another in psalmsand make music from your heart to the Lord. So not just singing to God, but also to each other. And keep you Face toward you And, years later, hearing the Hebrews cries for rescue, God remembered His covenant with their ancestors and rescued them. And we must trust He will act on our behalf. NO,EAT HEALTHY! May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. The Lord bless you And keep you Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you The Lord turn His Face toward you And give you peace. At my church we divide Christian songs into 4 categories. It seems to be a base assumption that we would pray for blessing and peace for the nation in which we live so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This takes you further away & not nearer to God! And, it is only by His grace we are able to to live for the Lord in this dark world. I wont be posting anymore But welcome your reply be blessed brother and I love you. Now let us discern this, the problem with songs labelled Christian; is not just lyrics, music, performance style or in fact often have nothing to do with the song or the artist performing it being possibly found sound by measure, but the where-from. Id love to hear what Scripture backs this up as a worship song (not the lyrics being from the Bible, but this actually being a worship song). You are correct about the original context. But, that doesnt mean that it cannot be used in such a way. Thank you for the time and effort youve put into this site Vince! The Blessing is misleading to the believer, not just the unbeliever. Im weary because if were worshipping ourselves, we have entered into idol-worship, and we know how much God HATES that (Exodus 20:4). There is plenty to choose from! it does require some explanation in a church service so that congregations dont think that singing God loves me and wants to bless me is enough. Now as far as whole Doctrine is concerned, Matt is also hitting it on the nail saying this song is not a Worship song, but could in fact be idolatry. He is with you, He is with you. We shouldnt either. Grain of salt aside, I am glad to help with Scripture passages! There is nothing wrong with asking the Lord to bless those we hold dear. If God is so for them, should we be against them in anyway? It is completely unfit for corporate worship without a firm warning about the scriptures true meaning and in that case, could we not just pick something that doesnt require explaining? As a pastor of a traditional denomination I seemed to end up with very dysfunctional congregation. I agree that it can help us learn and reinforce concepts; However, it can also become hypnotic. Ha ha! I agree that its not a worship song. Thats the question you have to ask yourself. Im not sure how I even feel about that as it is taken out of context, but thats something Im working through right now. For one thing, there is many a danger & pitfalls applying to us & not them! Theres a preacher who comes to our church on occasion and even before this song came out he would sing Nu. It inspires unity and adds another language to break the repetition. 7 Remember not the sins of my youth, nor my transgressions: according to thy mercy remember thou me for thy goodness sake, O LORD. When they get there, God is going to drive away (through the Israelites) the nations that live there. Job 22:28 Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways. And let the beauty of the LORD our God be on us: and establish you the work of our hands on us; yes, the work of our hands establish you it. That we would understand God is for us no matter the time of day, location, or personal scenario. So the music rises in intensity to help bring that understanding from our heads to our hearts which brings deeper faith to our struggling minds. When this blessing is offered in Numbers, its after a bunch of laws have been brought forth, and even after the Nazarite vow! And their children, and their children, May His presence go before you Repetition is definitely talked about in the book of Revelation. 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